Thank you Ownedbypet. Your name says it all. I think the first two will be easy since they now come during the day without their mom. The other three run as soon as they hear a noise. I think they come back late at night. We always keep food out for them. The other four are doing so good. They love their new bigger cage and as soon as my granddaughter finds a place to live she will be taking them with her. She has done a great job socializing them. They love to eat. They climb the six foot cage in a flash. They all got out one night and that was fun. We had to fix the top and make it escape proof. Will post when I have news about the new kitties. Their mom is doing great after her surgery. Gail