Posted
June 03, 2009, 11:36AM
by
mshoem
"PETA" (who claims to be "for" the rights of animals) AND HSUS go hand in hand! These two organizations, I have lost all respect for. I thought if any organization would "help" APBT it would be PETA- what a joke! (their spokes person stated on a CNN show that all the Victory dogs should have been "put down" and the money used to rehabilitate them should have gone to HSUS!) Thanks to Best Friends- they have educated America to what the Pit Bull breed is all about. They have rehabilitated dogs that people thought to be a loss cause. Dogs learn, like children learn, and there are some people who should not be parents let alone own a dog!
In general, I agree that bsl's are not helpful, unwarranted, and cruel. But I don't see what would be so wrong with a bsl that requires that all owners of pit bulls be prepared to provide documentation that the animals are spayed and neutered.
Lets face it, pit bulls are the most euthanized breed. There are too many of them. I large part, I believe this is true because the dog fighting community is always trying to breed game dogs and casting off the ones who don't measure up. (My brother owns one such cast-off who was set out of a car in the middle of a busy intersection).
A spayed or neutered dog is likely to be less aggressive in the ring. More importantly, they can't bring their owners big money for puppies with fighting bloodlines if they can't produce offspring. I know enforcement would be expensive. But a bsl that requires all pit bulls to be spayed or neutered might give police and other authorities a workable tool for catching dog fighters and making it more difficult for them to conduct business. It might also turn out to be the narrow end of the wedge for establishing more stringent s&n laws for all breeds.
Thoughts?
mc in ny
msp511 - I too have a very fearful Pit that doesn't 'train' well. She was badly beaten up when we got her and we had no idea how she would respond to people. She has been with me for over 2 years now and is a love. She ignores my cats and rabbits and is happiest sitting at my feet while I work or watch TV. She could no more pass a class than she could type this response.
I agree with lenj that Caesar Millan could help you, but the first thing he will tell you is not to treat your dog as a victim or a baby; treat her like a dog. Giving her too much attention or letting her get away with behavior you wouldn't accept in other dogs, makes her think that she is the Pack Leader. Dogs that are confused as to their role in your family are most likely to bite.
Posted
June 12, 2009, 3:31AM
by
LorrieFM
I hope it continues to cost cities large amounts of money to ban breeds. Maybe they will discover that proper training saves lives and cost much less. My rescued pitbull mix is a wonderful loving animal and would never harm anyone. She loves me and I am so grateful she rescued me.
Posted
June 02, 2009, 12:21AM
by
nicol
The HSUS kills pit bulls and supports BSL.
Please sign and circulate:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Demand-Wayne-Pacelle-of-HSUS-Resign
Posted
May 30, 2009, 4:21PM
by
marys
How cool would it be for every person reading this to copy and post it locally or turn it in to the local newspapers! Let's all help spread the word.
Posted
June 02, 2009, 8:38AM
by
Rita2828
HSUS NO LONGER KILLS PIT BULLS
THANKS TO BEST FRIENDS !!!!!
EACH DOG GETS ASSESSED INDIVIDUALLY
Rita from Brooklyn
There are so many issues facing pit bulls and some other poweful breeds, and it seems like we need to get down to lobbying the right people to make change ... namely, politicians and insurance companies.
You look at the breed bans on military bases and posts and apartment complexes and rentals, and you can trace that back to insurance companies. What can we do as a network to lobby the insurance companies as well? That seems the logical place to start as their decisions affect so many living areas that don't allow these dogs, which in turn directly influences why so many die in shelters as well.
Can a group of us--led by Best Friends--come up with a lobbying campaign to educate both politicians and insurance companies?
Great study! Thank you Best Friends!
Lets hope it drives the point home to communities considering bans that BSL is not only wrong but not worth the costs.
Posted
June 02, 2009, 8:38AM
by
Rita2828
HSUS NO LONGER KILLS PIT BULLS
THANKS TO BEST FRIENDS !!!!!
EACH DOG GETS ASSESSED INDIVIDUALLY
Rita from Brooklyn
Posted
June 02, 2009, 8:39AM
by
Rita2828
HSUS NO LONGER KILLS PIT BULLS
THANKS TO BEST FRIENDS !!!!!
EACH DOG GETS ASSESSED INDIVIDUALLY
Rita from Brooklyn
Posted
June 02, 2009, 11:43AM
by
nicol
rita - HSUS has agreed that every pit from a fighting ring be assessed as an individual, as there was a huge public uproar and many cancelled their memberships. did you actually read the article? there are other dogs out there that are not ex-fighting pits and HSUS is killing them. HSUS is responsible, in many different ways, for the deaths of countless dogs and cats across the country. do your homework before making blanket statements. HSUS has killed more animals than all abusers, dog fighters, etc, put together.
Posted
June 02, 2009, 7:5AM
by
msp511
kkrpsyd -
I take issue with your idea of requiring every so call "dangerous" dog to take a CGC course. I adopted a pitbull last year. I've already taken her thru one obedience class. I couldn't even help her to learn sit, because she is so fearful, most likely because she was abused before we got her. She literally runs away when I ask her to sit. While I would love for her to learn sit, stay and come, there are no expectations of her at my house, because it's not worth traumatizing her further just so she can learn to sit on command. She will live out the rest of her life loved and treated like a queen, but she may never sit and she will certainly never be able to pass a CGC class.
Posted
June 12, 2009, 11:33AM
by
lenj
msp511 - I think Cesar Millan can help you with your fearful dog. He is on National Geographic channel as Dog Whisperer. Cesar is a very special person that helps dogs, and the dog he takes with him to help other dogs is a pit bull named Daddy.
Thank you Best Friends and Sandy Miller for this very well said article. Education is very important.
kkrpsyd--
Certainly the idea of focusing on training is a good one, but requiring it only for certain breeds won't do much to address the psychology of fear. In fact, requiring it for only certain breeds will reinforce the idea that only certain breeds can harm anyone--or, as you mistakenly claim, only certain breeds have strong jaws.
Also, how does one decide which breeds are feared in your community? Would you have a poll? Or would the list include any breed that anyone has ever feared--in which case it would be likely to include all dogs.
Our expectations for behavior should be the same for all breeds--not just a select few.
Posted
June 01, 2009, 11:23AM
by
kkrpsyd
IMHO breed bans are as much for a community feeling safe than almost anything else. No plan will succeed unless the psychological component behind breed bans is addressed. People are afraid of pits, rotties, and other breeds who, one way or another, have been demonized by society.
To handle the psychological component I suggest a requirement that any breed, mix, etc. that the locality *perceives* to be dangerous be subject to a training requirement. Make it so any dog of the locally specified breed(s) needs to either have completed and passed a CGC course or be currently enrolled in one. And make it so the person who is administering the CGC test is an employee of the municipality. This could be someone such as an animal warden, etc. With the CGC evaluator someone who is a government employee rather than a random public citizen who has met the CGC evaluator requirements, citizens need not worry about the evaluator being in cahoots with unsavory citizens who wish to harbor *dangerous* dogs.
With this kind of legislation those breeds which are demonized will no longer be feared (as much) and their owners - who are often the ones that really need the training - will now know how to handle them properly. I just wish the CGC curriculum had "drop it" as a required command which I, personally, think is super important with dogs (like pits) who have strong jaws.
Just as we can never eliminate fights between humans, we will never eliminate dog bites. But localities can put in legislation which will not only bring a sense of psychological calm to their citizens but also help those breeds by making sure their guardians know how to appropriately work with them.